Lucy is Emerita Professor of Music Education at IOE, UCL's Faculty of Education and Society.
What is your role and what does it involve?
I am now retired from full-time involvement in IOE, but I do still have some doctoral students, give guest lectures on the Music Education MA and the PGCE in Secondary Music, and participate in the life of IOE in various other ways, as well as keeping in touch with a number of colleagues and institutions overseas.
I continue to sit on the Editorial or Advisory Boards of about 14 international peer-reviewed journals, and the reviewing pool for a further 25 or so. That helps to keep me up to date because I get to read research before it's published. My doctoral students also help because most of them will publish their work after they've finished, and some of my past MA students have done too. I give lots of keynotes at conferences and professional meetings here in the UK and overseas.
How long have you been at IOE?
I started in 1990. The kinds of things I'm still involved in have always been a part of my role, but for the first six years I spent half my time as a tutor on the PGCE in Secondary Music. I also was the co-ordinator of the Primary Music Specialism and Core Course, and taught on the Advanced Diploma/B.Ed in Music Education, and on the Music Education MA. I was responsible too for running in-service courses, including accredited and non-accredited ones. My first doctoral student graduated in 1996. She is now a Professor of Music Education herself, as are many others of my past students; I am very proud of them all, whatever they are now involved in; and also still in touch with most of them.
I became the Music Education MA course leader in my third year here, and did that for about 12 years. After I stopped being course leader I carried on teaching and being module leader of various modules for several more years. I retired from full involvement in the course two or three years ago. Because I started teaching on it during my first week here, I recently realised that I had supervised 115 MA dissertations to completion. I have seen about 25 PhDs to completion so far, all sole supervised.
“I strongly believe that teaching is an exchange of knowledge between people, and how can we exchange if we don't listen?"
Over the years I've sat on a number of committees, and contributed to various other courses, seminars and such like. I was involved with preparations for our Research Excellence Framework (REF) entry for many years, including co-ordinating one of five themes which ran across the Institute during two of the exercises. This is also nice work because I get to read the publications of a wide range of colleagues in fields that I might not otherwise find out so much about.
I have been giving keynotes at conferences since 1996, as well as short courses or seminars in other universities since before I started here. Sometimes I had up to six keynotes in a year in different countries, which became rather taxing and I'm now cutting down on that activity. Also I have been External Examiner for various undergraduate and masters courses, and have examined quantities of doctoral theses.
What's the most important thing you've learned from your students about the subject you teach?
To listen to the students. That seems like a simple thing to say, but I can't emphasise enough how much of my own learning comes from listening to my students: to their views and perspectives on music and music education; to their experiences as musicians, music teachers and in other roles in the field of music; to their musical values. There is so much music in the world, and so many ways to engage with it; no-one can possibly know more than a fraction of what is there.
What working achievement or initiative are you most proud of?
Tell us about a project you are working on now which is top of your to-do list.
What would it surprise people to know about you?
I suppose given my work on popular musicians' learning practices, people may be surprised to know that I am a classical singer and pianist by training; Mediaeval music is the closest I ever get to performing popular music which is learnt to a large extent by ear. Oh, and I play the hurdy gurdy! (At a very elementary level!)