23: Alfred McCoy - Who Governs the Globe?

Professor Alfred McCoy is the Harrington Professor of History at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He specialises in the history of the Philippines, US foreign policy, European colonisation of Southeast Asia, illegal drug trade, and Central Intelligence Agency covert operations. In this conversation we talk about run-ins with the CIA, world order and empire over the past 500 years, the duality of raw power and principle, the fading of US empire and the rise of China, as well as the prospects for world order in a context of climate breakdown.

You can find out more about Al McCoy on the University of Wisconsin-Madison website and read his essays on Tom Dispatch. 

Works that we discuss in the podcast include:

• The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade (1972)
• A Question of Torture: CIA Interrogation, from the Cold War to the War on Terror (2006)
• In the Shadows of the American Century: The Rise and Decline of US Global Power (2017)
• To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change (2021)

22: Dave Snowden – Complexity, Sensemaking and Entanglement

Dave Snowden, founder and chief scientific officer of Cognitive Edge, joins us to discuss complexity science, Neo-Darwinism, democracy and much more.

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