Thomas Oatley joins us to talk about complex systems, why complexity theory remains on the margins of global political scholarship, and the nexus between our global financial and energy systems.

In this conversation we talk about:
- The value of thinking in terms of complex systems
- Why complexity theory remains on the margins of global political scholarship
- The nexus between our global financial and energy systems
- Green industrial policy and much, much more.
Thomas can be found here.
He tweets @thoatley
We discussed:
‘Energy and the Complexity of International Order’, Global Environmental Politics (2021).
‘Green industrial policy and the global transformation of climate politics’ (with B. Allan and J. I. Lewis), Global Environmental Politics (2021).
‘Toward a political economy of complex interdependence’, European Journal of International Relations (2019).
Joseph Tainter, The Collapse of Complex Societies (1990).