John Cave

1765 - 1842

Claimant or beneficiary

Biography

  1. Bristol manufacturer (glass and vitriol), son of John Cave (1736-1800) the Bristol banker and Susannah Cox (d. 1806).

  2. Married Penelope Oliver 31/08/1793 in Bristol. Penelope was from an Antiguan family with close connections to Massachusetts. Her father Thomas Oliver (1734-1834) was the last royal Lieutenant Governor of Cambridge, Massachusetts, immediately before the American revolution. They had five children, the eldest baptised in St Augustine-the-Less, Bristol, 19/12/1794 and two others in the same church 09/03/1798. Penelope was buried in Henbury, St Mary, Gloucestershire, 08/04/1815 age 44. John Cave remarried, to Catharine Margaret Strachan, in East Teignmouth, Devonshire, 05/11/1819. In 1841 the family John Cave, age 76, of independent means, was living with his wife Catharine, age 50, 2 male servants and 5 female servants at Brentry House, Westbury-upon-Trym, Gloucestershire. The will of John Cave of Westbury-upon-Trym, Gloucestershire, was proved 03/09/1842.

  3. John's youngest son William Cave married firstly Mary Ann Brooke (1801-1848) and they had ten children including: Isabella Anne Cave (1828-1857) (who married James Disraeli, brother of British PM Benjamin Disraeli); Mary Elizabeth Cave (1830-1871) (who married Fulbert Archer, a business partner in Miles Kington and Co, see https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/imperial/view/1837776351), Olivia Caroline Cave (1834-1870) (who married Edward Peach William Miles, son of Philip John Miles, q.v.), Edward Astley Cave (1838-1857) (he died in Melbourne Australia, presumably when he and other business partners were setting up and operating the merchant house of Miles Kington and Co).

Sources

T71/877 Antigua claim no. 37 (Friar's Hill).

  1. William D. Rubinstein, Who were the rich? A biographical dictionary of British wealth-holders Volume Two 1840-1859 (London, Social Affairs Unit, 2012) reference 1842/10.

  2. For a detailed family tree see 'Cave Archer Radcliffe and Miles Family Trees' by Elisabeth764 on Ancestry.com, http://trees.ancestry.com.au/tree/52941755/person/27564643144. http://www.cambridgehistory.org/content/thomas-oliver [accessed 17/02/2015]. Ancestry.com, England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 [database online]. Familysearch.org batch no. C01086-4. Ancestry.com, England, Select Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900 [database online]. Ancestry.com. England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 [database online]. 1841 census online. PROB 11/1967/323. Rev. Oliver Cave is in the CCEd (person id 103886) and in Ancestry.com, Oxford University Alumni, 1500-1886 [database online].

  3. Emails received 19/01/2015 and 25/01/2015. 'Cave Archer Radcliffe and Miles Family Trees'.

We are grateful to Ruth Hecht for her assistance with compiling this entry.


Further Information

Absentee?
British/Irish
Spouse
(1) Penelope Oliver (2) Catherine Margaret Strachan
Children
With (1) Rev. Oliver (1785-1864), Penelope (1798-), Elizabeth (1803-1876), William (1805-1854)
Wealth at death
£160,000
Occupation
Glass manufacturer
Rubinstein
1842/10

Associated Claims (1)

£1,984 16S 10D
Awardee

Legacies Summary

Imperial (1)

Other
New Zealand 
notes →
Descendents of John Cave wielded political, military and economic power in eighteenth-century New Zealand. Their youngest son William Cave married firstly Mary Ann Brooke (1801-1848) and they had ten...

Physical (1)

Country house
Brentry House 
notes →
Built 1802 for William Payne; remodelled 1817-1825. See David Lambert, 'The prospect of trade: the merchant gardeners of Bristol in the second half of the 18thC' pp. 123-145 in Michael Conan...

Political (2)

Local Government
Tory 
office →
Sheriff
1822 - 1823
office →
Mayor
1828 - 1829

Relationships (5)

Brother-in-law → Sister-in-law
Brother-in-law → Sister-in-law
Brother-in-law → Sister-in-law
Husband → Wife
Son-in-law → Father-in-law

Addresses (1)

Brentry House, Westbury-upon-Trym, Bristol, Gloucestershire, South-west England, England