MARG1/1

(Carreg Kythyrogg; Maen Llythyrog)
Corpus Refs:Huebner/1876:71
Macalister/1945:408
Nash-Williams/1950:229
RCAHMW/1976:848
Rhys/1905:50
Site:MARG1
Discovery:first mentioned, 1695 Lhuyd, E.
History:Rhys/1873, 8: `Aug 27. --...From this stone we went up Margam mountain, a distance of some three miles or so, to see the stone called Carreg Lythyrenog. It stands erect on the mountain not far from a little pool called Llyn-dwr-mawr'.

Westwood/1876, 22: `The description and figure published in Bishop Gibson's edition of Camden's Britannia, from, as there is reason to believe, the communication of Edward Lhwyd, of an early inscribed stone on the top of the mountain north of Margam Abbey, induced me to hunt for this interesting monument, when I traversed the mountain in different directions for several hours...I might indeed have lost my labour had it not been for the information given me by a passer-by: for the stone itself had been thrown down and no longer presented that striking mark for observation which it must have done when erect.[1]...when I visited it, [it was] lying amongst the stones still remaining of this tumulus.

[1] Thanks to the elegant poetical remonstrance on the overthrow of this stone published in the Arch. Camb. 1853, p. 78. the stone has been re-erected'.

Macalister/1945, 384--385: `Formerly on the summit of Ton Mawr, a height in Mynydd Margam, at the head of the tributary of Afon Cynfigg; but now carried down to Margam Museum and there deposited.[1]...The stone was removed to its present position because modern persons of the same category [i.e. `ignorant common people'], aggrieved, presumably, by a strong iron railing which had been erected to protect it from sacrilegious hands, had been amusing themselves by firing revolver shots at it'.

[1] A cast of the stone has been set up on the original site'.

RCAHMW/1976, 37: `formerly standing on a low mound (I i 271) on Mynydd Margam at 340m above O.D. when it was known as `Carreg Kythyrogg'.[1]...The stone had been mutilated by modern graffiti and an O.S. bench mark before being moved to Margam Museum, its present location. It has been replaced by a modern replica.

[1] Stowe MS. 1024, fos. 10 and 16'.

Geology:RCAHMW/1976, 37: `local material'.
Dimensions:1.01 x 0.33 x 0.22 (RCAHMW/1976)
Setting:in display
Location:Margam Stones Museum (Cat: no. 3)
Knight/1999, shows that this stone is now in the Margam Stones Museum on the ground floor, marked as number 3. Nash-Williams/1950, 146: `The stone is in Margam Abbey Museum'.
Form:cross-marked
Westwood/1879, 22--23: `The stone is nearly 5 feet high, 1 1/2 foot broad, and nearly a foot thick. The top is rather slanting, and bears an incised cross of the Maltese form, from the bottom limb of which a line extends to the F at the beginning of the second line of the inscription, whilst the face of the stone bears an inscription'.

Nash-Williams/1950, 146: `Roughly quadrangular pillar-stone, with inscription and (? later) incised cross. 40+" h. x 13" w. x 7" t.'.

RCAHMW/1976, 37: `A well-squared pillar-stone...It is...1.01m (plus ca. 15cm) long, 33cm wide narrowing to 28cm and 22cm thick'.

Condition:complete , some
Folklore:Westwood/1876, 23: `notwithstanding the affirmation of the ignorant common people of the neighbourhood, that whosoever should happen to read the inscription would die soon after'.

Macalister/1945, 385: ``The ignorant common people' in the neighbourhood of this stone promise (according to Gibson) or firmly believe (according to Gough) that whoever happens to read the inscription shall die soon after. `Let the Reader therefore take heed what he does (says Gibson); for if he reads it he shall certainly dye' -- a warning softened down by Gough to `with this assurance let the reader, therefore, attempt it if he dares''.

Crosses:1: equal-armed; linear; expanded; plain; plain; none; none; other; n/a
Decorations:

Rhys/1905, 79: `On the top of the stone is a small Maltese cross, which is joined by a sort of connecting line with the filius of the epitaph'.

Macalister/1945, 385: `On the top of the stone there is a cross pattée, which may be a later addition. On the back of the stone there is a bench-mark, as well as sundry modern grafitti'.

Nash-Williams/1950, 146: `Top. Small incised `Maltese' cross with sunk arms (Fig. 3, 14). 7th--9th century(?)'.

RCAHMW/1976, 37: `On the upper surface of the stone is an incised cross form (Fig. 6, m) which is not necessarily later than the inscription.[2]

[2] Two slabs with small additional crosses similarly placed on the upper edge are recorded at Kilberrihert, Co. Tipperary (P. O. Heailidhe, `The Crosses and Slabs at St. Berrihert's Kyle' in North Munster Studies)'.

References


Inscriptions


MARG1/1/1     Pictures

Readings

Rhys, J. (1873):BODVOC{I}HICI{A}CIT | F/IL/IVSC{A}TOTIGIRNI | PRONEPVSETERN{A}L/I | VEDOM{A}V{I}
Expansion:
BODVOCI HIC IACIT FILIVS CATOTIGIRNI PRONEPVS ETERNALI VEDOMAVI
Translation:
The Cross of Bodvoc (PN): here lies the son of Catutegernios (PN), great-grandson of Aeternalis (PN) of Vedomagus.
Rhys/1873 8 reading only
Rhys/1905 79 reading only
Westwood, J.O. (1879):BODVOC{I}HICI{A}CIT | F/IL/IVSC{A}TOTISIRNI | PRONEPVSETERN{A}L/I | VEDOM{A}V{I}
Expansion:
BODVOCI HIC IACIT FILIVS CATOTISIRNI PRONEPVS ETERNALI VEDOMAVI
Westwood/1876 23 reading only
Macalister, R.A.S. (1945):BODVOC{I}HICI{A}CIT | F/IL/IVSC{A}TOTIGIRNI | PRONEPVSETERN{A}L/I | VEDOM{A}{L^V}{I}
Expansion:
BODVOCI HIC IACIT FILIVS CATOTIGIRNI PRONEPVS ETERNALI VEDOMALI
Macalister/1945 385 reading only
Nash-Williams, V.E. (1950):BODVOC{I}HICI{A}CIT | F/IL/IVSC{A}TOTIGIRNI | PRONEPVSETERN{A}L/I | VEDOM{A}V{I}
Expansion:
BODVOCI HIC IACIT FILIVS CATOTIGIRNI PRONEPVS ETERNALI VEDOMAVI
Translation:
(The stone) of Bodvoc (PN). Here he lies, son of Catotigirnus (PN) (and) great-grandson of Eternalis (PN) Vedomavus (PN).
Nash-Williams/1950 146 reading only
RCAHMW (1976):BODVOC{I}HICI{A}CIT | F/IL/IVSC{A}TOTIGIRNI | PRONEPVSETERN{A}L/I | VEDOM{A}V{I}
Expansion:
BODVOCI HIC IACIT FILIVS CATOTIGIRNI PRONEPVS ETERNALI VEDOMAVI
Translation:
Of Bodvocus (PN) -- he lies here, the son of Catotigirnus (PN) and great-grandson of Eternalis (PN) Vedomavus (PN).
RCAHMW/1976 37 reading only

Notes

Orientation:vertical down
Position:S ; broad ; below cross ; undivided
Nash-Williams/1950, 146: `Front. Latin inscription (Fig. 159) in four lines reading vertically downwards'.

RCAHMW/1976, 37: `The inscription is in four lines read down the face'.

Incision:inc
Macalister/1945, 385: `it was chiselled, in broad lines square in section'.
Nash-Williams/1950, 146: `picked and then deepened by cutting'.
Date:500 - 599 (Nash-Williams/1950)

500 - 599 (RCAHMW/1976)

400 - 550 (Westwood/1876)
Westwood/1876, 24: `As regards the date of this stone, the late Taliesin Williams, in a letter to me, considered it. to be `about A.D. 300, if not earlier.' Considering, however, that the formula and orthography are debased Roman, it may more probably be of the fifth or early part of the sixth century.
`The palaeographical character of the two inscriptions on Plate XIII [this stone and Kenfig], as contrasted with those on the following Plate [Baglan, Margam and Bryn Keffneithan], is markedly distinct, and clearly indicates a much earlier date to be given to the two former stones.'
533 - 599 (Jackson/1953)
Jackson/1953, 291: `mid or later sixth century'.
Language:Latin (rcaps)
Ling. Notes:Rhys/1905, 79, regards this inscription as a `curtailed hexameter of five feet'. He goes on to state: `Pronepus stands for pronepos; in fact nepus also occurs for nepos'.
Palaeography:Westwood/1879, 23: `entirely in Roman capitals, with the exception of the h in the first line...(all the A's being turned upside down.

… On carefully looking at this inscription several peculiarities are noticeable, the most important of which is the Greek cross incised upon the truncated top of the stone'. Rhys/1905, 79: `The inscription is in capitals, except the letter h, two of the final i's are horizontal, and all the a's are upside down; fi and li are represented by ligatures, but the letters are otherwise better cut than the average of inscriptions of this kind'.

Macalister/1945, 385: `The H is half-uncial. All the A's are inverted, and the FI, LI of FILIVS are ligatured as usual. The penultimate letter is ambiguous; it might be V quite as well as L'.

Nash-Williams/1950, 146: `Roman capitals...with half-uncial H and three ligatures. The A's, with angular cross-bar, are all inverted. The R's in l. 3 have a short, nearly horizontal tail. FI and LI in ll. 2 and 3 are ligatured. The first and last words have the horizontal final -I'.

RCAHMW/1976, 37: `The lettering is almost entirely in Roman capitals with a single half-uncial H; the A-s, with angular cross-bar, are inverted, and the R-s in the third line have a horizontal tail. For the `S' form of G, compare No. 843. There are three ligatures, FI and LI (twice), and the horizontal terminal I occurs twice, in the first and last words'.

Legibility:good
Westwood/1879, 23: `the whole being in excellent preservation and...may easily be read'.

Macalister/1945, 384: `very good condition'.

Lines:4
Carving errors:0
Doubtful:no

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